Comments on: Global warming is changing the way the world works. http://www.carbonplanet.com/blog/2008/01/11/global-warming-is-changing-the-way-the-world-works/ The founder's blog for Carbon Planet Limited. You can be the change® Sat, 06 Sep 2008 05:09:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Dave Sag http://www.carbonplanet.com/blog/2008/01/11/global-warming-is-changing-the-way-the-world-works/#comment-17511 Dave Sag Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:17:18 +0000 http://www.carbonplanet.com/blog/2008/01/11/global-warming-is-changing-the-way-the-world-works/#comment-17511 Alas you are expressing a very common misconception. Carbon Credits, for the most part, channel funds to projects that either remove CO<sub>2</sub> or prevent future CO<sub>2</sub> and other GHGs from entering the atmosphere. It's we the people who are the primary polluters. If we didn't drive, didn't shop and didn't fly then the oil/car companies, those factories in China and the airlines would have no cause to pollute. So you have it entirely 180° around. We the people have a duty to pay to clean up the mess we've made. Cheers Dave Alas you are expressing a very common misconception. Carbon Credits, for the most part, channel funds to projects that either remove CO2 or prevent future CO2 and other GHGs from entering the atmosphere.

It’s we the people who are the primary polluters. If we didn’t drive, didn’t shop and didn’t fly then the oil/car companies, those factories in China and the airlines would have no cause to pollute. So you have it entirely 180° around. We the people have a duty to pay to clean up the mess we’ve made.

Cheers Dave

]]> By: Quantum-Mechanic-on-Duty http://www.carbonplanet.com/blog/2008/01/11/global-warming-is-changing-the-way-the-world-works/#comment-17501 Quantum-Mechanic-on-Duty Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:05:58 +0000 http://www.carbonplanet.com/blog/2008/01/11/global-warming-is-changing-the-way-the-world-works/#comment-17501 A credit card ad campaign and a soda water ad campaign and a fast food restaurant ad campaign could total an amount that exceeds the total investment in renewable energy in 2006. We have only just begun to internalize external costs, and levels of investment in sustainability are low compared to what they will be when social and environmental costs are properly accounted for. One defect with the idea of pollution credits or carbon credits <i>per se</i> is that money changes hands AMONG POLLUTERS when the relative amounts of pollution change among the polluters. Money should change hands <b>when pollution goes into the air or water</b>, and the money should go to the people at large, who are, after all, the rightful owners of the air and water. We will know when the fees are high enough when most people selected in a random sample survey say that we have about the right balance between the competing interests so that we have air and water that is clean enough AND we have enough freedom of action for industries to produce and the economy to function. <a href="http://www.rl.tv/dailycafe" rel="nofollow">Walter Cronkite for President</a> A credit card ad campaign and a soda water ad campaign and a fast food restaurant ad campaign could total an amount that exceeds the total investment in renewable energy in 2006.

We have only just begun to internalize external costs, and levels of investment in sustainability are low compared to what they will be when social and environmental costs are properly accounted for.

One defect with the idea of pollution credits or carbon credits per se is that money changes hands AMONG POLLUTERS when the relative amounts of pollution change among the polluters.

Money should change hands when pollution goes into the air or water, and the money should go to the people at large, who are, after all, the rightful owners of the air and water.

We will know when the fees are high enough when most people selected in a random sample survey say that we have about the right balance between the competing interests so that we have air and water that is clean enough AND we have enough freedom of action for industries to produce and the economy to function.

Walter Cronkite for President

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